Author: Mac
Should
you inform a police officer that you are armed, when stopped for traffic or
other official contact? The answer is
not an automatic yes or no, though some may lean heavily one way or the other
for various reasons. First, let us make
it clear that Nevada, along with 80% of the states, has no law requiring
volunteering such information to an officer.
That said, it may be obvious to a cop already that you are likely armed
(bumper stickers, gun racks, et al) and he can cross reference registered vehicle
owners against CCW permit records if he chooses to do so. Note that if an officer asks, which Nevada
law allows, and you are a CCW permit holder carrying concealed, you must answer truthfully.
For whatever reason, most don't ask.
Most officers probably realize it's not that big a deal, as none of their
brothers have been shot by someone being open and truthful at the window.
The
most common reason I hear for informing an officer is that it shows him
respect. I can't argue with that. But it implies a fallacy that it is somehow
disrespectful to omit this information.
It is not. As for this respect,
the sad truth is that all too often, when a citizen shows such respect to an
officer, the respect is not returned in kind. To the contrary, it still causes problems at times.
I
wouldn't say that I drive too fast; certainly never too fast for road
conditions, but sometimes too fast for the white sign on the road. Let's put it this way: I drive about the same
way you see most cops driving. So, since
I'm not a cop, I've probably been pulled over for traffic stops more frequently
than most. I've used these opportunities
to experiment with this issue. I'd need
more fingers to count how many times an officer has responded to my informing
with something along the lines of: "That's fine, just don't touch
it."
Word
count and writing time prohibit multiple specific examples, but my favorite (for
lack of a more appropriate word) involves a young state trooper. I was pulled over for crossing a solid white
line (not the gore) to take a freeway exit.
It was the middle of the afternoon, perfect visibility, and not a car
anywhere near me; I simply only realized at that moment that that was the only
exit for where I needed to go, the proper interchange not yet finished. But, despite all lack of harm to anyone, it
was a legal stop; and he apparently had nothing better to do. I decided that I was going to inform the
officer that I was armed. When he reached
my window, I already had my driver's license, registration, proof of insurance,
and CCW permit ready, with the latter on the top of the pile. I told him that I was licensed and currently
armed; half expecting the usual "Thanks for telling me; don't worry about
it." I was genuinely surprised when
the polite young man instead told me that for "officer safety" he was
going to disarm me. Apparently, they
don't have the same basic firearms safety training that everyone else
gets which has 'don't needlessly handle loaded firearms' as one of the basic
tenets.
He
asks me to exit the vehicle and stand with my hands on top of my head. So there I am, hands over my head like a
criminal being arrested, next to a busy highway, and the exiting freeway
traffic is whizzing by. I'm wondering if
he's ever actually calculated his odds of things that decrease his "safety." He asks where the firearm is. I tell him: "Holstered inside the
waistband behind my right hip." Now,
this holster is simply a nice leather molded holster. It holds the firearm securely from movement,
but doesn’t have any overt retention mechanisms, yet he struggles to pull it
from the holster. He tries several
times. I can feel that he's not pulling
it straightly. How do you offer
assistance to this? It's probably good
for me that he has no partner in the car to misread the situation. After several attempts (all the while I'm
praying not to be shot by accident with my own sidearm) I offer to him that if
he unsnaps the two straps on the holster, he can remove it entirely, with the
firearm safely inside. He agrees, and
does so easily. This is another time
that I'm glad I carry a cocked-and-locked 1911-style pistol with a manual
safety lever, as I have no idea (but I'm getting a clue) as to the level of
experience this young man has with sidearms.
Here's
my favorite part: After disarming me
'for his safety,' he places me back in my vehicle while he takes my
now-known-about firearm to his car, where he removes it from the security of
the holster, unloads it without the benefit of a backstop, and proceeds to illegally
search its serial number against the then-officially-existing registration
database. He then returned to my window
to discuss my minor traffic violation and warn me not to do that. He then goes back and retrieves my firearm
from his car and returns it to me, whereupon now I must either be presumably
unarmed or reload it while in a vehicle, which we safety instructors teach to officially
avoid when possible.
Now,
remember the premise for all of this loaded gun handling? "Officer safety." Where was his intense focus and how close to
me was he during the disarming? I hope
his grappling skills belie his apparent age.
Where was I after being "disarmed?" Back in my vehicle, next to a different loaded
pistol in the console, and in the company of several armed passengers. Perhaps we should have shown more
"respect" for the officer and done a lot more volunteering and
requisite street side strips? We might
still be on the side of the road doing unsafe gun handling and illegal weapons
registration checks!
But
all that time brings up a valid point favoring informing. I am convinced that there have been a few
occasions where the time it took for the officer to disarm me (and his
subsequent antics) have, perhaps even subconsciously, justified his time after
pulling me over, and resulted in a warning instead of citation for the actual
infraction of which I otherwise was guilty.
So
what of my experiences when I did not inform the officer that I was armed? Only once did he ask, and he did so during
his opening remarks, having run a CCW permit records check on the registered
owner of my vehicle. On every other
occasion, it was a complete non-issue.
It never came up, nor would have made any difference in the
outcome. Everyone showed respect for
everyone and we just did what we had to do so solve our current legal
differences.
So
there you have it: the choice is yours.
I try not to lean either direction, and decide at the moment whether I
will inform or not. I have not been able
to determine a significant difference between jurisdictions; the individual
officer makes much more of a difference than whether he is from Metro, NLV,
Henderson, Mesquite, Moapa Tribal, the Nevada Highway Patrol, or even the
rangers at the Lake Mead NRA (I am proud to say that I've successfully run the
gauntlet over Hoover Dam countless times with zero experiences meeting Boulder
City's finest.) You can sometimes get a
read on the officer's attitude immediately, or you may know already how much of
an ass-chewing you're going to get, and then decide whether informing will add
to it or help. By all means, if gaining
access to requested documents will reveal or also gain access to a firearm, I
highly recommend you tell him first.
Obviously, you should plan ahead so that documentation is all together
and easily accessible on its own to avoid such sudden required thinking under
duress.
Take
care on our roads, and show some respect, will ya? To the police, and to yourself.
About the author: Mac is US Navy veteran, and a licensed and certified firearms instructor specializing in Nevada firearms laws. He welcomes comments and questions, time permitting, to blue.gold.firearms.training@gmail.com
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